(Blog) Moralistic Therapeutic Deism: I Think We're in Trouble - Part 3 - Ep. 983 - September 25, 2026

Moralistic Therapeutic Deism: When Church Comfort Changes the Message

A church can help visitors feel welcome and still leave out teachings they need to hear. That is Alan Smith and Jeff Rowland's concern as they discuss moralistic therapeutic deism: a version of faith centered on being good, feeling good, and turning to God in a crisis.

Making the gospel accessible is different from changing what the gospel says. Their discussion begins with how a personal outlook can become the message a whole church teaches.

What moralistic therapeutic deism means

Alan and Jeff refer to sociologist Christian Smith's work on the faith of American teenagers who attended church. They trace the term moralistic therapeutic deism, or MTD, to a book published in 2005. In their summary, its message has three parts:

• Be a good person.
• Feel good about yourself.
• Turn to God when there's an emergency.

Jeff puts the last point plainly: if you need God, "his phone number's 911." The hosts believe that outlook differs from the gospel because it gives little place to sin, repentance, or a continuing need for Christ.

Their concern goes beyond what one person believes. When sermons, songs, and services repeatedly teach people to measure faith by their goodness or happiness, MTD becomes a church-wide message. Alan and Jeff worry that people may mistake a good feeling, or a sense that their lives are going well, for an encounter with God.

How seeker-sensitive churches tried to welcome newcomers

The hosts connect part of MTD's growth to the seeker-sensitive church movement of the 1980s and 1990s. They see the movement's original concern as understandable. A visitor might struggle with unfamiliar church language, customs, or a service that assumes everyone already knows what is happening.

Churches responded by using less insider language, choosing contemporary music, speaking to felt needs, and making services easier to follow. Alan and Jeff don't object to those changes in themselves. They point to Paul's willingness to become "all things to all people" and say the effort to reach newcomers could be a legitimate movement of the Holy Spirit. Seeking a deeper life with Christ is good, too.

The line they draw is between helping someone understand the gospel and leaving part of it out. A service can change its presentation while keeping the cross at its center. Once accessibility becomes a reason to avoid difficult teaching, they argue, the message changes.

When removing barriers means removing teaching

The article Alan and Jeff discuss states their central concern in a sentence:

"The concern is that removing barriers sometimes turned into removing teachings."

They describe churches softening sin into "brokenness" or "your struggle," avoiding hell because it might offend visitors, speaking less about Christ as the only way to heaven, and saying less about the cost of discipleship. Alan calls this watering down the message.

He also recalls an assumption he believes took hold in some churches: everyone present was already saved, so preaching the gospel seemed unnecessary. In his view, churches began shaping their language around what an audience wanted to hear rather than teaching biblical language and its meaning.

That shift can affect an entire congregation. A message focused on personal goodness, comfort, and blessings may teach people that they have no need to repent. Alan compares that attitude to a church satisfied with its prosperity while overlooking its spiritual condition.

Why conviction and repentance still belong in church

Alan and Jeff object to treating discomfort during a sermon as proof that something has gone wrong. They say people come to church to hear truth, and truth can challenge how they think and live. Repentance follows that challenge.

Jeff is careful about what he means. He isn't saying everyone must cry at an altar. He is saying that biblical teaching can leave a person with a decision to make, even when hearing it doesn't feel good.

The hosts see hell as one example of a teaching churches may avoid. Alan mentions Kirk Cameron, saying he has heard that Cameron no longer believes hell is eternal or no longer believes in hell at all. Alan is uncertain which position Cameron holds. The conversation uses that report to discuss what happens when a belief changes.

Jeff reaches for the language of a compromised security system: if an enemy has entered the system, the problem goes beyond one altered statement. He and Alan apply that spiritual concern to teachers they believe have moved away from biblical doctrine. They also name Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens while discussing people they believe have been "compromised." Alan connects his concern about teachings entering the church to Jude's warning about people who "crept in."

The cross remains the center of the message

Alan remembers preacher Walter Brown telling him that any subject in Scripture has an element that leads back to the cross. He agrees, naming the resurrection and the fellowship of Christ's sufferings as themes that bring a preacher back to the gospel.

"There is always an element that brings you back to the gospel."

For both hosts, that center includes Christ's blood atonement. They worry that churches can speak so generally about love and encouragement that the cross, repentance, and the meaning of salvation fade from view. Alan says God does not send people to hell; in his account, people choose their destination. He insists that hell is real and that avoiding the subject does not change it.

Their concern also extends to how churches teach Scripture. Alan objects to using verses mainly to support positive language while leaving out their context. He calls for teaching that deals with what the biblical text says, including passages that are difficult to hear.

What happens when the language of atonement disappears

Alan gives a personal example from a recording project in Nashville about 20 to 25 years earlier. His cousin had signed with a contemporary Christian label and invited him to record an album with him. Each contributed five songs.

Alan hadn't planned to record one particular song, but his cousin asked him to include it. When Alan took it to the producer, the producer objected to the phrase "blood of the Lamb," saying it would offend some people. Alan recorded the song anyway.

The hosts also discuss a dispute they recall over Methodist hymns that refer to the blood. They don't settle how many hymns were involved. For Alan and Jeff, both examples raise the same concern: if words such as atonement or "blood of the Lamb" are set aside because people may not understand or welcome them, churches have less room to teach what those words mean.

New styles do not require tearing down old foundations

Alan and Jeff distinguish cultural choices from the gospel itself. Jeff remembers hating the expectation that a preacher wear a suit and tie. One Saturday at Alan's house, he saw a preacher on a recording wearing an ordinary shirt, possibly Greg Laurie. Jeff went to church the next day without a suit and says he hasn't worn one since.

He doesn't believe a suit and tie make a preacher more spiritual. A person can preach under the Holy Spirit's anointing in a suit or in jeans. Dress is a cultural matter.

That experience shapes his criticism of how some people treat older church practices. He has no objection to a new form simply because it is new. What troubles him is the urge to bury older preaching, singing, and worship along with the faith they expressed. As he puts it, a generation cannot build its work by tearing down the foundations earlier believers laid.

He hears a similar difference in worship music. In his view, many older hymns carry more biblical depth than much contemporary church music. He acknowledges that some writers today are producing substantial songs, so his criticism is not directed at every new song. The issue, he says, is whether the message in the music has been weakened.

What younger generations learn from church culture

Alan and Jeff do not blame young people for failing to know practices they were never taught. They mention "Amazing Grace" and "I'll Fly Away" as songs that may be familiar to older churchgoers but unknown to some younger ones. Jeff also recalls speaking with people in their 30s who had never heard Bible stories he expected them to know.

To the hosts, those gaps point back to what parents and churches have modeled. Jeff describes parents after World War II who wanted their children to have an easier life than they had. Alan connects that desire to church: a parent who sees a child's discomfort as something to prevent may also want to spare that child a convicting sermon.

They use the example of a child getting in trouble at school. Jeff remembers a time when a child might face consequences at home as well; now, he says, parents may go to the school to defend the child. He acknowledges that parents sometimes have good reason to challenge a school. His larger point is that children learn from the response modeled in front of them.

The hosts believe the same happens in worship. If a church consistently treats conviction as harmful and happiness as the goal, younger members will learn that understanding of faith.

When happiness becomes the focus of sermons

The article discussed on the show connects church teaching to the growth of self-help and psychological language in American culture beginning in the 1970s. Emotional well-being, healthy relationships, personal fulfillment, and happiness became familiar ways to describe a good life.

Alan and Jeff's concern is that a church can adopt that message and add Jesus to it while teaching less of the gospel. They recall encountering this approach in addiction programs years earlier. Some programs, they say, relied mainly on psychology and added Christian language to describe themselves as Christ-centered.

They contrast those experiences with a program in Florida founded by Mickey Evans, where Ron Rawls also served. Both men have since died. Alan and Jeff remember that work for keeping the gospel central, even as they say modern psychological ideas later entered its setting to some degree.

The hosts do not dismiss every observation psychology makes. Jeff suggests some principles may give temporary help to someone who does not know Christ. Still, he does not believe psychological support can take the place of the gospel's call to repentance.

Managing a problem is different from repenting of sin

Alan shares an experience from his family to explain the distinction he is making. His mother lived with mental disorders, and he spent time in and out of mental hospitals with her from childhood until her death, when he was in his 50s.

After she had seen one psychiatrist for about 10 to 12 years, Alan asked how many patients the doctor had seen cured of a mental disorder. Alan says the psychiatrist answered, "None," and explained that he helped people manage their disorders. Alan appreciated the honesty.

He applies that contrast to moralistic therapeutic deism. In his view, a message centered on feeling better may help someone manage a sense of lostness while leaving sin unaddressed. A person may reason that doing better will make them feel better, then take that feeling as assurance that they are right with God. Removing hell from the message does not resolve the question the hosts are raising.

The question Alan and Jeff leave with churches

Alan and Jeff plan to continue the discussion because they believe it is difficult to work through fully. Alan says it may also shape what he preaches that Sunday. Their question is what church messages are lacking if people are not being taught the full gospel.

A welcoming service and a new worship style can have a place. The message must still make room for the cross, Christ's blood atonement, sin, repentance, hell, and the cost of discipleship. For the hosts, making people comfortable cannot replace teaching them what Scripture says.

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